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===Domegliara-S Ambrogio (Bivio S Massimo) - Verona Porta Nuova===
===Domegliara-S Ambrogio (Bivio S Massimo) - Verona Porta Nuova===
[50] (''137B4'') IT18/31
[50] (''137B4'') IT19/31


There are two routes from the Trento line into Verona Porta Nuova, which divide at Bivio S Massimo.  
There are two routes from the Trento line into Verona Porta Nuova, which divide at Bivio S Massimo.  The connection used by most trains joins the Brescia line from the north.


*The connection used by most trains joins the Brescia line from the north.
The alternative route passes beneath the Brescia line and joins the line from Bologna at Verona Porta Nuova Scalo. This is used by trains between the Trento line and platforms 10, 11 and 12 at Porta Nuova. Through trains between the Bologna and Trento lines mostly use this route.
*The other passes beneath the Brescia line and joins the line from Bologna at Verona Porta Nuova Scalo. This route appears to be used by trains between the Trento line and platforms 10, 11 and 12 at Porta Nuova. Through trains between Trento and Bologna generally run this way.


===Verona west-south avoiding line: Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) – Buttapietra or Dossobuono (Bivio S. Lucia)===
===Verona west-south avoiding line: Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) – Buttapietra or Dossobuono (Bivio S. Lucia)===
[12, 51, 186] (''137B4'') IT18/32
[12, 51, 186] (''137B4'') IT19/32


This curve enables trains to run between the Brescia and Bologna lines without having to reverse at Verona Porta Nuova.  There is a summer service between Bergamo and Pesaro via this curve, which is likely to operate again in 2018. The 2017 schedule was: 
This curve enables trains to run between the Brescia and Bologna lines without having to reverse at Verona Porta Nuova.  It is used between June and August by a train pair between Bergamo and Pesaro.


{| class="ostable"
{| class="ostable"
Line 22: Line 21:
| ''R1771''
| ''R1771''
| Bergamo - 08:17 Brescia - Pesaro
| Bergamo - 08:17 Brescia - Pesaro
|-
|-  
| D1
| D1
|  
|  
| ''R1770''
| ''R1770''
| Pesaro - 19:48 Nogara - Bergamo
| Pesaro - 21:01 Nogara - Bregamo
|}
|}


D1: 11 June to 27 August 2017.
D1: 9 June to 25 August 2019
 
These trains are not shown in ''In Treno'', but the full schedule can be found at the [https://www.tper.it/sites/tper.it/files/freccia%20orobica%202019_0.pdf TPER website]


===Verona west-north avoiding line: Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) – Domegliara-S.Ambroglio (Bivio S. Massimo)===
===Verona west-north avoiding line: Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) – Domegliara-S.Ambroglio (Bivio S. Massimo)===
[12, 50] (''137B4'') IT18/33
[12, 50] (''137B4'') IT19/33


This curve enables trains to run between the Brescia and Trento lines without having to reverse at Verona Porta Nuova. [http://www.ferrovieturistiche.it Ferrovie Turistiche Italiane] proposes to run excursions on 25 November 2018 from Lecco and on 2 & 8 December 2018 from Milano to the Christmas market at Trento, which are expected to use this route.
This curve enables trains to run between the Brescia and Trento lines without having to reverse at Verona Porta Nuova. Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.
Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.
[[File:Verona_3.jpg|50px|thumb|left]]<br style="clear: both" />
[[File:Verona_3.jpg|50px|thumb|left]]<br style="clear: both" />
[http://www.ferrovieturistiche.it Ferrovie Turistiche Italiane] runs excursions in November and December from Milano and Lecco to the Christmas market at Trento via this route.  2019 dates are 24 November from Lecco and 1 & 8 December from Milano Centrale.  Advance booking is required.


===Buttapietra or Dossobuono (Bivio S. Lucia) - Verona Porta Nuova===
===Buttapietra or Dossobuono (Bivio S. Lucia) - Verona Porta Nuova===
[50] (''137B4'') IT18/34  
[50] (''137B4'') IT19/34  


There are two routes from the Bologna and Mantova lines into Verona Porta Nuova, which divide at Bivio S Lucia. Most platforms are accessible from both lines.
There are two routes from the Bologna and Mantova lines into Verona Porta Nuova, which divide at Bivio S Lucia. One route runs south of the locomotive depot via Verona Porta Nuova Scalo and the other runs on an embankment north of the locomotive depot.  All platforms are accessible from the embankment line.  Most trains use platforms 7 or 8 at Verona Porta Nuova and mostly appear to use the embankment route.  Any using higher-numbered platforms may run via Porta Nuova Scalo, but the embankment line appears preferred for terminating trains.  Through trains between the Bologna and Trento lines mostly use this route.  See route IT19/31 for exceptions.


*One route runs south of the locomotive depot via Verona Porta Nuova Scalo. This is used mainly by trains to and from the higher-numbered platforms at Porta Nuova. Trains via Isola della Scala are more likely to run this way.
*The other route runs on an embankment north of the locomotive depot. This is used mainly by trains to and from the lower-numbered platforms. Mantova trains are more likely to use this route.
Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.
Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.
[[File:Verona_1.jpg|50px|thumb|left]]<br style="clear: both" />
[[File:Verona_1.jpg|50px|thumb|left]]<br style="clear: both" />


===Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) - Verona Porta Nuova===
===Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) - Verona Porta Nuova===
[12] (''137B4'') IT18/35
[12] (''137B4'') IT19/35


There is a route between Verona Porta Nuova and the main line to Brescia and Milano via Verona Porta Nuova Scalo.     
There is a route between Verona Porta Nuova and the main line to Brescia and Milano via Verona Porta Nuova Scalo.     
Line 55: Line 55:
[[File:Verona_2.jpg|50px|thumb|left]]<br style="clear: both" />
[[File:Verona_2.jpg|50px|thumb|left]]<br style="clear: both" />


It may be used by trains to and from platforms 11 and 12 at Verona Porta Nuova (on the south side of the station).  There are few of these, normally early in the morning.  The 06:55 departure has been known to run via Verona Porta Nuova Scalo.  It is not certain whether the others do so.
It may be used by trains to and from platforms 10, 11 and 12 at Verona Porta Nuova (on the south side of the station), but there are few of these:  


{| class="ostable"
{| class="ostable"
| D2
|  
|  
| ''ITA8931''
| Bergamo - 06:27 Brescia - Napoli Centrale
|-
| D
| SSuX
| SSuX
| ''R2092''
| ''R2092''
Line 66: Line 71:
| SX
| SX
| ''EN232''
| ''EN232''
| Wien Hbf - 07:12 SuX Verona Porta Nuova - Milano Centrale
| Wien Hbf - 07:00 SuX Verona Porta Nuova - Milano Centrale
|-
|-
|  
| D3
|  
| SuX
| ''R2058''
| ''R2058''
| 07:45 Verona Porta Nuova - Milano Centrale
| 07:45 Verona Porta Nuova - Milano Centrale
|-
|
| SSuO
| ''R1703''
| 19:23 Verona Porta Nuova - Lecco
|}
|}


D3: This train uses platform 3 on Sunday morning.
D2: ''Italo'' high-speed train on which Trenitalia tickets are not valid
 
D3: Train runs via the main line and not via Porta Nuova Scalo on Sunday mornings


'''The compilers would welcome reports of current platform use at Verona and of use of this route.'''
Note that train ''R2060'', 08:40 Verona Porta Nuova to Milano Centrale appears from Trenitalia timetables to take longer than usual between Verona and Peschiera del Garda, but it does '''not''' use this route.  It is looped at Peschiera del Garda for six minutes in order to be overtaken by a following train.
 
'''The compilers would welcome reports of current platform use at Verona and of use of this route in particular.'''


===Venezia avoiding line: Venezia Mestre Ospedale or Venezia Carpenedo (Confluenza UD/TS) - Mira-Marano (G.S. Mestre AC)===
===Venezia avoiding line: Venezia Mestre Ospedale or Venezia Carpenedo (Confluenza UD/TS) - Mira-Marano (G.S. Mestre AC)===
[14, 55] (''138B3'') IT18/36
[14, 55] (''138B3'') IT19/36


This curve is used by trains between the Treviso or Trieste and Padova lines to avoid reversal at Venezia Mestre.Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.
This curve is used by trains between the Treviso or Trieste and Padova lines to avoid reversal at Venezia Mestre.Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.
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|  
|  
| ''EN295''
| ''EN295''
| München Hbf - 01:19 Tarvisio Boscoverde - Roma Termini
| München Hbf - 22:02 Salzburg Hbf - Roma Termini
|-
|-
|  
|  
|  
|  
| ''EN233''
| ''EN233''
| Wien Hbf - 01:34 Villach Hbf - Milano Centrale
| 19:23 Wien Hbf - Milano Centrale
|-
|-
| D
| D
| WFO
| WFO
| ''EN1237''
| ''EN1237''
| Wien Hbf - 01:08 ThSO Tarvisio Boscoverde - Livorno Centrale
| 20:23 Wien Hbf - Livorno Centrale
|-
|-
|  
|  
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| ''EN234''
| ''EN234''
| Milano Centrale - 23:44 Padova - Wien Hbf
| Milano Centrale - 23:44 Padova - Wien Hbf
|-
| D
| ThSO
| ''EN1236''
| Livorno Centrale - 23:49 Padova - Wien Hbf
|-
|-
|  
|  
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| ''EN294''
| ''EN294''
| Roma Termini - 22:57 Bologna Centrale - München Hbf
| Roma Termini - 22:57 Bologna Centrale - München Hbf
|-
| D
| ThSO
| ''EN1234''
| Livorno Centrale - 23:49 Padova - Wien Hbf
|}
|}



Revision as of 14:51, 16 June 2019

Introduction

This list is based on the timetable in force from 10 December 2023. Although the timetable is shown as valid until 8 June 2024, most long-distance services are shown as operating only until March. Such trains are not indicated by note 'D' (for a service only running on certain dates), because it is a reasonable expectation that their period of operation will be extended or a similar service is provided instead. It is assumed that the timetable will continue to be updated and reissued regularly, as has been the case since summer 2020. Users are recommended to check the Trenitalia website to ensure they are using the latest version of the timetable.

Table numbers quoted here are from In Treno Tutt'Italia, the official Trenitalia timetable. Standard abbreviations are explained here.

Map references for each route entry are given in parentheses ( ). References prefixed "ERA-E" refer to the European Railway Atlas (All-Europe Edition) by M.G. Ball. References prefixed "ERA-R" refer to the European Railway Atlas (Regional Series: Book 2) by M.G. Ball. References prefixed "S+W", or in italic, refer to Atlante ferroviaro d'Italia e Slovenia by Schweers + Wall.

Two useful symbols exist which show the booked route for trains not calling at a station: in the middle of the train column, a vertical bar "|" means that the train passes through the station without stopping, whereas a middle dot "·" means that the train does not pass through that station but instead takes a different route.

Obscure services

Domegliara-S Ambrogio (Bivio S Massimo) - Verona Porta Nuova

[50] (137B4) IT19/31

There are two routes from the Trento line into Verona Porta Nuova, which divide at Bivio S Massimo. The connection used by most trains joins the Brescia line from the north.

The alternative route passes beneath the Brescia line and joins the line from Bologna at Verona Porta Nuova Scalo. This is used by trains between the Trento line and platforms 10, 11 and 12 at Porta Nuova. Through trains between the Bologna and Trento lines mostly use this route.

Verona west-south avoiding line: Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) – Buttapietra or Dossobuono (Bivio S. Lucia)

[12, 51, 186] (137B4) IT19/32

This curve enables trains to run between the Brescia and Bologna lines without having to reverse at Verona Porta Nuova. It is used between June and August by a train pair between Bergamo and Pesaro.

D1 R1771 Bergamo - 08:17 Brescia - Pesaro
D1 R1770 Pesaro - 21:01 Nogara - Bregamo

D1: 9 June to 25 August 2019

These trains are not shown in In Treno, but the full schedule can be found at the TPER website

Verona west-north avoiding line: Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) – Domegliara-S.Ambroglio (Bivio S. Massimo)

[12, 50] (137B4) IT19/33

This curve enables trains to run between the Brescia and Trento lines without having to reverse at Verona Porta Nuova. Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.


Ferrovie Turistiche Italiane runs excursions in November and December from Milano and Lecco to the Christmas market at Trento via this route. 2019 dates are 24 November from Lecco and 1 & 8 December from Milano Centrale. Advance booking is required.

Buttapietra or Dossobuono (Bivio S. Lucia) - Verona Porta Nuova

[50] (137B4) IT19/34

There are two routes from the Bologna and Mantova lines into Verona Porta Nuova, which divide at Bivio S Lucia. One route runs south of the locomotive depot via Verona Porta Nuova Scalo and the other runs on an embankment north of the locomotive depot. All platforms are accessible from the embankment line. Most trains use platforms 7 or 8 at Verona Porta Nuova and mostly appear to use the embankment route. Any using higher-numbered platforms may run via Porta Nuova Scalo, but the embankment line appears preferred for terminating trains. Through trains between the Bologna and Trento lines mostly use this route. See route IT19/31 for exceptions.

Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.


Castelnuovo del Garda (Bivio Fenilone) - Verona Porta Nuova

[12] (137B4) IT19/35

There is a route between Verona Porta Nuova and the main line to Brescia and Milano via Verona Porta Nuova Scalo. Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.


It may be used by trains to and from platforms 10, 11 and 12 at Verona Porta Nuova (on the south side of the station), but there are few of these:

D2 ITA8931 Bergamo - 06:27 Brescia - Napoli Centrale
D SSuX R2092 06:55 Verona Porta Nuova - Milano Centrale
D3 SX EN232 Wien Hbf - 07:00 SuX Verona Porta Nuova - Milano Centrale
D3 SuX R2058 07:45 Verona Porta Nuova - Milano Centrale
SSuO R1703 19:23 Verona Porta Nuova - Lecco

D2: Italo high-speed train on which Trenitalia tickets are not valid

D3: Train runs via the main line and not via Porta Nuova Scalo on Sunday mornings

Note that train R2060, 08:40 Verona Porta Nuova to Milano Centrale appears from Trenitalia timetables to take longer than usual between Verona and Peschiera del Garda, but it does not use this route. It is looped at Peschiera del Garda for six minutes in order to be overtaken by a following train.

The compilers would welcome reports of current platform use at Verona and of use of this route in particular.

Venezia avoiding line: Venezia Mestre Ospedale or Venezia Carpenedo (Confluenza UD/TS) - Mira-Marano (G.S. Mestre AC)

[14, 55] (138B3) IT19/36

This curve is used by trains between the Treviso or Trieste and Padova lines to avoid reversal at Venezia Mestre.Click on the thumbnail for a full size map.


The following trains use this route:-

EN295 München Hbf - 22:02 Salzburg Hbf - Roma Termini
EN233 19:23 Wien Hbf - Milano Centrale
D WFO EN1237 20:23 Wien Hbf - Livorno Centrale
EN234 Milano Centrale - 23:44 Padova - Wien Hbf
D ThSO EN1236 Livorno Centrale - 23:49 Padova - Wien Hbf
EN294 Roma Termini - 22:57 Bologna Centrale - München Hbf

See also